Apr 10, 2000 14:35 from Carolyn
I may have a piece for this weekend (although I won't be there to do it
myself).  It absolutely has no nudity in it whatsoever, but I'm finding myself
trying to squeeze it in somewhere just for the sake of not letting good nudity
go to waste.
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Apr 10, 2000 16:55 from Quicheo
A piece from Whitewolf AND Carolyn!  In the same night!  My Gods--the estrogen
balance is restored!!!
 
(Advice--get you or your proxy there WAY early, as it is the last proper show
of the semester, and many a writter will be vying for a slot!)
 
Speaking of,  it's not too early to be combing those orders for best of
nominations!
 
OH, and Carolyn, if it's not too much trouble, tell my brother to e-mail me
when he as a free moment! ;)
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Apr 10, 2000 18:39 from Aggressive Gambler
As many of you know, this is the weekend of the iscanic. Will this week's show
be in Gallagher-Iba^H^H^H^H^H^H Theater B, or in Mabie?
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Apr 11, 2000 22:48 from Dan
Good question. The powers that be have settled in Mabie for the Tempest, but
it's still possible that we can get the big room. Otherwise, it'll be fire code
night in B.
Or, as it's popularly known, Gallagher-Ibalskdjfa;jdf2934029u)(*&)^( Theater B.
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Apr 11, 2000 23:18 from Thufir
I can actually attend on Friday night, too.  Only one this month.
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Apr 12, 2000 08:36 from Carolyn
Shoot.  I had been planning on showing up and being naked all night, and just
this morning had to cancel all my plans because of a really nasty mood swing.
Just your luck.
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Apr 12, 2000 17:38 from Quicheo
Awww...
 
BTW--my vote is for Fire Code night--much more cozy.
 
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Apr 12, 2000 18:09 from Alice From Hell
It'd be one way to pick up a date.
"Hey baby, need a seat? My lap's free."
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Apr 12, 2000 18:39 from Friskee
 
So, I saw Stubble at this evening's meal.  Dude, he must have been working out!
 
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Apr 12, 2000 22:11 from Crotch Monkey
please!!!  he is the laziest motherfucker i know.  i think i can actually hear
him getting fatter right now.
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Apr 13, 2000 09:20 from Quicheo
 
Just when you thought the feud was over...
 
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Apr 13, 2000 09:47 from Friskee
But I must say that Cassady isn't as attractive/deadly as Stubble.  We'd better
see some skin on Friday!
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Apr 13, 2000 19:34 from Stubble
thats very kind of you friskee....but i must admit that my room-mate is much
more attractive and better at nearly everything than i am.  even as i pretend
to major in mathematics and electrical engineering, it is mike who completes my
assignments and takes my test.  im not sure how much longer i can live this
lie....hopefully atleast until i can fake my way through a degree...or should i
say, have mike fake his way through a degree for me.
so im just saying, you know.
credit where credit is due.
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Apr 14, 2000 07:41 from Trouble
 
  *cackle*  Carolyn, your sense of humour is just cruel enough to send me into
fits.
 
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Apr 14, 2000 07:54 from Whitewolf
 
I lied. I can't make No Shame this weekend after all. Someone else will have to
get Brad and Greg naked.
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Apr 14, 2000 08:02 from Trouble
 
  Well what good is it if you're not there, Tasha?  You're the one who made the
challenge to me in the first place.  Or would you take my word for it?
 
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Apr 14, 2000 08:42 from Alice From Hell
I can get Greg naked.
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Apr 14, 2000 08:46 from Trouble
 
 It's no big trick, really.
  Strip Dilbert works well.
 
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Apr 14, 2000 08:52 from Teez
When has it ever been a challenge to get a young male naked?  And by the way,
Stubble does look pretty buff these days.  Maybe they ARE feeding the engineers
creatine...
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Apr 14, 2000 12:37 from Thufir
Who says I'm young?
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Apr 14, 2000 13:47 from Ender
 
Don't spoil my illusions, Thuf!  I was sittin' here thinking "hey, if he's
young maybe I am too..."
 
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Apr 15, 2000 00:59 from Thufir
That was an extremely surreal No Shame.  I might even remember the order if I
think really hard.  (I haven't slept in three days.  Bear with me.)
 
1)  fell flat.  Maybe I don't log on often enough any more or something but I
didn't get any of the jokes (and it seemed like the audience wasn't getting it
either).  I didn't even get the Derry Does Dallas joke, which may just be
evidence of my mental state.
 
2)  was ... OK.  It was delivered reasonably well, if in an amateur-actress
faux-sobbing melodrama.  At least she memorized it.  But.  Dude.  Doggerel.
DOGGEREL AT NO SHAME.  Isn't there a law?  Don't go over five minutes, don't
damage the space, don't recite doggerel.  That's all I ask.  (I didn't mean to
imply the piece was OK in that first line.  It wasn't.  At all.  I just had to
catch myself and pause.)
 
3)  was rather akin to watching someone try and start an enormous car that
hasn't been working so well.  Sputter sputter, sputter sputter, choke, sputter
sputter gaWHOOOOOOOOM and suddenly it's thunder and rolling and BAM.  Nice.  I
wish it hadn't taken quite so long to turn over, but you can't have everything.
(Mose Hayward's piece about Austria and Gandhi and people as tools.)
 
4)  was marvelous.  I was about to really congratulate the big guy who recited
it for writing a fantastic piece.  Then he did 9) and it dawned on me that he
hadn't actually written it, it had been Carolyn.  But he still did a pretty
good delivery job, especially for No Shame -- the fact that I was unable to
tell at first that he had written it speaks volumes, I think.  (When Carolyn's
name was announced in the order I started audibly, since I thought 1. she
wasn't going to be there and 2. if she had a piece she'd be doing it herself.
Which, I realize, hasn't been true in the past and shouldn't be now.  But.  I
ramble.)
 
5)  was Adam's, I think, and it was short and I don't remember much of it and
it didn't particularly grab me.  I was spacing.  Sorry, man.
 
6)  was the Ben Schmidt Song of the Evening and I thought his "something a
little different" was a fine change of pace from his normal pattern.  I liked
the way he played the guitar that time around as well.
 
7)  was (since I apparently must start all of these reviews with the past-tense
of "to be") Dan Brooks' (do you put another S after that apostrophe?)
monologue.  I have never disliked a Dan Brooks monologue.  This one didn't
stand out in any new or interesting way, but they're always cool.
 
8)  Agh.  I can't remember eight.  I CAN'T REMEMBER EIGHT.  I'm getting senile.
It'll come to me when someone posts the order.  Expect an addendum.
 
9)  Pancake Breakfast Monologue.  Hey.  Remember that rule up there?  No piece
over five minutes?  Isn't that an actual rule?  Jesus Christ, man, there were
maybe five people in the entire theater that you didn't lose.  I tried, I
really tried, but No Shame is Short Attention Span theater.  If you go for
FIFTEEN MINUTES, you're gonna lose us.
 
10)  MTV VJ and Babylon 5 wackiness.  Another surreal skit.  I wasn't quite
sure what to make of it.  It was certainly funny in parts.  I do have an
audience critique here though.  Audience:  DO NOT ENCOURAGE SINGING ALONG TO
THE REALLY BAD SONG.  Thank you.
 
**********************************
 
At this point I've started to lose track of the order the skits were in.  I
think I've done a fairly heroic job so far given that I don't actually have an
order in front of me, so I'm going to identify the rest by skit instead of by
number.
 
A)  Four people eating breakfast skit.  This was just not that good.  The
writing was trite and the delivery was mediocre and the ending was incredibly
predictable.  Shame, shame, shame.
 
B)  Assaulting-the-blind-dude skit.  This, this I liked, in a sort of
five-year-old-humor way.  It was also somewhat predictable, but I have the
(dis)advantage of knowing the humor of the Chris Stangl and Jamal River pair,
and that probably explains why I could see it coming.  It could have been worse
-- for example, it could have been...
 
C)  Cappy and whores and shit skit.  Um.  While I don't mind use of the surreal
as a humor device (see: Mose Hayward and Gandhi, bull-beaters and Bab5, et al.)
there's a difference between surreal and stupid.  The line's not that fine, but
y'all crossed it anyhow.  It also wasn't well performed, although the best part
was when the (really cute) girl fell down laughing and bungled her line.
 
D)  "I am the hero of this skit."  I liked it.  I did.  It was kind of falling
flat near the end there -- seems like you guys didn't know how to end it.  But
I liked it, anyhow.  "Last night when I slept with my wife I pretended she was
you."  "You don't have a wife."  "Don't nitpick."  In general I liked the
interactions between the (really cute) girl and the the other two guys.  Seemed
quite natural to me, always a plus.
 
E)  Chris Stangl monologue.  (I really really really hope that I haven't
completely messed you two up and you're actually Jamal, but to be perfectly
honest I haven't been able to tell you two apart since day 1.)  In any event,
it was reasonable.  Chris Stangl monologues, in general, are sort of like an
amateur pancake breakfast -- tasty in some spots, uncooked and raw in others,
goes down sort of squirmy and sits uneasily in your stomach for a long time
afterwards.  This one was no exception.  I didn't _hate_ it, but I wouldn't
want to sit around listening to a tape of Chris Stangl monologues on most days.
 
Overall, I think that No Shame is laboring under my curse again:  namely, low
quality when I'm there and significantly higher when I'm not.  I may endeavor
to attend another this semester.
 
-----------------------------------
 
OK.  This postscript here is for my own benefit.  I need a roll call.
Honestly.  Namely:  Who the hell IS everyone?  I can't for the life of me tell
who these four people are:  Aaron Galbraith, Mike Cassady, Mike Rothschild,
Neil "Balls" Campbell.  Why can't I tell?  Because you guys are ALWAYS IN EACH
OTHER'S PIECES.  So which one is which?  I think that Campbell is the smooth
talking blonde guy and Galbraith is the short buff dude and Rothschild is the
Really Jewish Looking guy and Cassady ... wasn't there tonight.  But what the
fuck do I know?  Someone give me descriptions to match names.  Please.
Incidentally, this is the same reason I have a difficult time telling Chris and
Jamal apart -- they're rarely not in each other's skits, and I frequently doze
off when Dan and Kyle are SCREAMING ABOUT THE ORDER AT THE TOP OF THEIR
LUNGS
and so I miss authors.
 
The guy-who-trips-my-gaydar guy, I wanna know who he is, too.  (He was the evil
villain in the "hero of the skit" skit.)  I just hate not being able to put
names to faces.  I'd ask about the (really cute) girl as well but I already
feel far too much like I'm coming on to her and that's a bit over the top.  So
with her I'll satisfy myself with ignorance.
 
(While I'm here:  When did No Shame become so female-short?  Besides the
Obligatory Aprille "I'm empirically attractive and know it" Clarke appearances
and the frequent guest-starring of (really cute) Girl, that's all I've seen in
months.  Not that I go often.  And here I just completely ripped to shreds the
only other female who went on stage tonight and she'll read this post and be in
tears and never perform again.  Go, me.)
 
-----------------------------------
 
If you actually read this far, I have two things to tell you:
1)  Wow.  You kick ass.  Long posts don't usually get read.  Kudos.
2)  My critique of piece 4 has an error in line 5 -- "he had written it"
shouldn't say "he hadN'T written it".  Those who got impatient and didn't read
this far are just going to have to be confused.  They deserve it.
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Apr 15, 2000 03:13 from Crotch Monkey
well, i went to chicago today to play in some stupid band thing.  and that
being said, id like to do my own review of the show/reply to thufir.  i think
it was thufir, im not sufir.  anyway.  you were correct in identifying the four
you were confused on, except, aaron "stubble
damnit i pressed return, let me start over-
well, i went to chicago today to play in some stupid band thing.  and that
being said, id like to do my own review of the show/reply to thufir.  i think
it was thufir, im not sufir.  that joke was almost as funny the second time
around.  anyway.  you were correct in identifying the four you were confused
on, except aaron "stubble" galbraith, is the really annoying guy, who doesnt
write anything much anymore, and when he does it stinks like shit, he just acts
in other peoples stuff trying desperately to steal their glory.  mike is the
guy with the reddish brown hair that does a cool-ass monologue every week and
occasionally writes a sketch and casts a rodent in it.  i think his monologue
was especially cool this week.  he gave us the set-up- the water bit.  then
rushed through a monologue with absolutely minimal interpretation.  btw my
guess was that he originally wrote that monologue as something that might have
been read seriously, but probably has such a plethera of monologues that he has
them to waste.  then he just hurried through them to make us think he was going
to make a point about "acting".  then gave the drink of water bit a real half
ased effort, kind of like the effort im giving to spelling write now.  this was
really satisfying to me as an audience member.  also- i had a really great
burrito tonight at pancheros, i just thought you all should know.  my apologies
to anyone who read through both mine and thufir's post.  i think its thufir, im
not sufir.
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Apr 15, 2000 03:33 from Thufir
Aaaah!  I finally remember what piece I forgot!  It was the weird musical piece
with the Girl and that weird angly blonde guy (is that Cassady?  I don't know)
on the guitar, and that other guy (who the hell is that?!  another regular) on
that strange accordion-pipe thingie.  And I think that piece was 10 and the
Bab5 sketch was 8.  Anyway.  I would have liked this one a lot better if the
Girl had had a louder singing voice and the instrumental people hadn't so
clearly been bumbling oafs with the instruments in question.  It was amusing,
but only briefly.
 
Addendum clear, carry on.
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Apr 15, 2000 03:38 from Crotch Monkey
you're right, cassadi bumbled way too much on the guitar.  and rothschild was
absolutely horrible on the mazunikaphone.  this piece could have used a little
more rehearsal time.
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Apr 15, 2000 03:41 from Thufir
_That's_ Rothschild?  OK, I fucked that one up.  Who's the guy with the glasses
who made the crowd sing along with him then?
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Apr 15, 2000 09:00 from Crotch Monkey
that's neil campbell.  and what i intended to include in my original post a few
short hours ago, was that the piece performed by adam burton was the one
carolyn wrote, and willie's first monologue of the night, the one that was less
than 12 minutes and 50 seconds, was penned by the great "balls" campbell.
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Apr 15, 2000 11:42 from Ender
 
Greg--the Villain in the homoerotic damsel/villain in distress piece was Arlen
Lawson, and your first attempt at matching faces to names in that one post
looked right on target to me, and No Shame's flings with gender equity have, in
my experience, been the unfortunately brief exceptions rather than the rule.
 
P.S.  I thought the piece with the couple addressing each other in the 3rd
person was very very funny and self-aware and I want the script.  I'm assuming
Mark Hansen wrote that one but no offense intended to the true author if I'm
wrong.  Great stuff.
 
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Apr 15, 2000 12:10 from Avenue Player
i wrote that, adam.  ahem.
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Apr 15, 2000 12:29 from Ender
 
Well big kudos to YOU then. :)
 
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Apr 15, 2000 12:43 from Subotai
Actually, Rothschild is that really sexy guy who plays gutiar and writes great
songs about women and babies, and Mike Cassidy is that dorky loser who's 5 foot
one and always writes about not being able to get laid. And he's Jewish. I
don't know what a "Neil Campbell" is, and Stubble is some sort of window
cleaner product.
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Apr 15, 2000 12:57 from Subotai
"Kudos to you, Lisa. Kudos.
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Apr 15, 2000 12:53 from Frackledart
geez, thubo, me and your reviews just don't get along. i DO think it was funny
that you loved neil's piece cause you thought it was the infamous caroloo's and
ignored the carolib piece without knowing. other than that, though: the cappy
piece was hilarious. i adored it. chris stangl's monologue made me laugh harder
than anything has in... well, days anyway (yes, that's chris, not me. how you
can tell is we don't look alike). i thought the song with the less than perfect
technical execution was good and i really liked listening to them play. i think
it's cool when people perform on instruments they have entirely mastered. i
like how it sounds. what else... oh yeah, al's eating breakfast piece: i
thought that was fun. i enjoyed it. i don't know if you're correct about the
"thibby curse" (no shame is only good when you don't come). a more logical
explaination would be that you don't like the direction no shame has gone in,
and some people do. nya. i thought the ben schmidt guitar/guy reading poem
thing was great. it was depressing, but great.
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Apr 15, 2000 13:28 from Thufir
Well, Balls kicks ass, then.  That piece was glorious.  The Carolyn piece just
didn't grab me.  (And I didn't think that #4 was Carolyn's to begin with --
just assumed it was after I realized that the big guy hadn't written it,
because Balls reads his own pieces, right?  Who knows.  And I thought the
blonde guy with the Adidas shirt was Balls, not the guy with the glasses who
was singing along to the crowd.  I'm so lost.)
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Apr 15, 2000 17:07 from Quicheo
Not to spoil the fun for thufir and everyone fucking with him, but I worry when
mis-information gets passed on and those playing the home game get lost.
 
So, difinitively, or however you spell that,
 
1)  The "Gaydar-tripping guy" is Stubble, who is also, at times, Mike Cassady.
2)  Neil "Balls" Campbell is the one with the "Indigo Girls" tattoo.
3)  Willie's piece went 12:30, Chris' went 9:10, and Willie is the guy who
played the organ thing.  He's usually much better.
4)  Brad Smith is the guy on guitar.  In every piece.  Ever.
5)  That "Cute Girl" is really sweet too, and her name is Mike Rothschild.
 
I hope that cleared things up.
 
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Apr 15, 2000 17:13 from Quicheo
Now, the order--
\
1)  Nerdy Humor for the ISCA Crowd.  Luv Ya! Luv Ya! by Aprille
Clarke
2)  Child's Sacred Place by LaShelle Christensen
3)  The Fatal Human Ghandhi Death Bullet Destroyer by Mose
Hayward
4)  For My Silly Willie! by Neil "Balls" Campbell
5)  One Art--after Jed Rasula by Carolyn Space Jacobson
6)  Judas Tree by Chris Offutt and Ben Schmidt
7)  Cheyenne by Dan Brooks
8)  Carson Daly or The Young and The Worthless by Michael
Rothschild
9)  Pancakes or Bust by Willie Barbour
10) At the Still End of the Hall by Elevator Shoes
11) I Am Kyle Lang.  Yes, Kyle Lang.  I Swear.  Kyle! ...Lang??
by Higgity. By Piggity and Riggity.  By Miggity Biggities.  And
William Shakespeare
12) The BBC and BB King.  Harry Truman.  Mose and Louie.  Dig
It! by Jamal "Areli" River
13) Mothers:  Can't Live With Them, Can't Achieve Orgasm Without
Fantasizing About Them Staring at You by Arlen Lawson
14) Play King Mueller's K'ak by Josh Kozuh
15) A Mickey Mouse Cartoon a horror story by Chris Stangl
 
Discuss.
 
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Apr 15, 2000 17:17 from Stubble
Let's get this straight. My stupid roommate, Mike "Crotch Monkey" Cassady, was
in Chicago last night. He was not at the show. However, he did get drunk and
post a KRAZY message right here on ISCA in which he made stuff up and confused
the living crap out of Thufir, among others, I'm sure. Mike is the guy who
wears wacky clothing and is wacky. Mike Rothschild is, in fact, the guy who
incited the singalong last night. Is he Jewish? I don't know, you'll have to
ask him. Me, I'm Stubble. I have a goatee and am short. I played King Mueller
in the Cappy sketch. I was wearing an Adidas shirt but my hair isn't blond.
Neil "Balls" Campbell (who wrote the first monologue Willie performed) was the
blind guy, "Blindie", in Jamal's sketch. Neil was wearing an Andre the Giant
Has A Posse shirt. However, I'm not sure why anyone would call Neil
"smooth-talking." He is most assuredly not. He mumbles a lot, at least around
me. Is everything settled? I do hope so!  Time for a nap!
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Apr 15, 2000 18:30 from Teez
Great job, Stubble, clearing all that up.  Just to make sure everyone has it,
Mike Cassady is the one with a cult following, Stubble is the buff one (he's
been working out lately, I hear), and Neil is the adorable blonde one you
want to take home with you.
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Apr 15, 2000 18:59 from Subotai
So what the hell am I?? Chopped string beans?
Oooops, answered my own question
Rothschild
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Apr 15, 2000 19:16 from Prufrock
And to further clear the air, I am a hulking Nordic giant of 6'10" with long
golden tresses and a dueling scar I got in my student days at Gottingen. Other
"urban legends" whose time has passed:
-Dan Brooks has never been conclusively shown to be present in Copenhagen in
April of 1993, the histrionics of Denmark's Ministry of Defense aside.
-Jamal River does not have a third arm, but does have an incompletely absorbed
twin (hence the molars which just from his sixth and seventh vertebrae, and Mr.
River's reluctance to lay flat on his back on the No shame stage).
-Jeff Goode never made love to any member of the City Council during his tenure
with No Shame.
-Chris Stangl does not and never has denied that he sleeps regularly with all
newly sworn in members of the City Council.
-Aprille Clarke's sexual habits have not to date incorporated any elements of
Santeria, Voudoun, Brixton Wall Reformed Rastafarianism, or the Kwakiutl ritual
of potlatch, let alone any ritual requiring the presence of five freshly
slaughtered breech babies.
 
I hope this stops some of the vicious rumors I've been hearing.
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Apr 16, 2000 03:59 from Quicheo
Most viscious and hurtful rumour--
 
James "Thuder" Erwin WON'T be at the show this weekend and wow the lame duck
dead week audience with brilliance like he usually does.
 
Make me a liar, James.  I dare you.
 
Oh, and thanks for that blessed wad of truth, Stubble!  The guilt was killing
me.  Some other truth--Mark Hansen played the organ thing, Kelli Rae Powell is
the "cute" woman, and she rocks, as does Mark, BTW, Brad Smith was indeed the
guitar person, presumably not confusable with Ben Schmidt, Mark was also in
Aprille's piece as "he", And they all were in the scatological thing about,
amoung other thing, the carrot butt plug, which, while mostly offensive for its
own sake, did yeild the hysterical interchange--"why do you have a carrot up
your butt?"--"I was lonely..."--Brad and Neil were also in the Rothschild's
Carson Daly sketch, with the latter playing Daly, and the former with the shock
stick, and than's all I remember just now.
 
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Apr 16, 2000 12:42 from Prufrock
"Thuder"? Possible etymologies.
1. A German transliteration of "Tudor". An oblique reference to my 1/64 Welsh
ancestry? A reference to my girth? Propensity towards political power? MY
execution of eight women? Research.
2. A reference to Thuder Chicken, produced in Kingston, Ohio. Connotations
rich. Research.
3. A reference to Albert Thuder, a pioneer in Contra Costa, California, and the
state's first dentist. Also rich in connotations. Research.
4. A possible misspelling of "Thunder". Why this misspelling? "Thuner",
"Thndr", "Tunder", "Hunder", "Thinder" all other possible misspellings, but
each less rich in possibility. Why did Chris choose "Thuder" with its rich
etymological possibilities, whether consciously or not? Calls for intimate
knowledge about Chris' feelings, childhood, educational grounding, and brain
chemistry. Research.
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Apr 16, 2000 15:53 from Masque
It's reference to your butt rumbling loud as thunder:)
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Apr 16, 2000 21:19 from Prufrock
Yeah. That's incisive. Thanks.
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Apr 16, 2000 22:26 from Quicheo
I think I meant "Thunder" but the alternative options posted are curious, as
are speculations as to my motivations for not spelling correctly.  Hmm..
 
Shifitng gears--nominations for best of??  Rumour has it that the board is
meeting PRONTO, and time is short to let you opinions be known!  Comb the
orders, flog you memory, sort through your sock drawer, whatever it takes to
recall your favorites for time is of the essence...and spelling is of the
devil...
e
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Apr 17, 2000 04:32 from Y And F
Is this Friday eligible for BONS?
 
My .02 since I've now been to a few.
(but will never try to work into and/or face the scrutiny of the NS clique)
I thought the first non-inebriated  critique of Friday was a little harsh
I guess I figure it takes a lot of "balls" to get up there and perform so I'm a
little nicer.
 
What I'll be a dick about?
Whoever went up there and just mumbled for 20 seconds. i don't know what you
were trying to do but you didn't achieve it.
That pancake sketch.  It was like an interesting documentary. You may have 20
hours of footage with some bite to it but if you don't cut it to an hour an a
half, noone will sustain interest.  I applaud the 3 women who sang on cue
during hour 2 of the monologue. I f i was tapped to do it I would've completely
forgot about my part by the time it got there.  Although I was able to assemple
assemble a good grocery list somewhere in the middle so it wasn't a total loss
Most of the others had some flaws but were interesting. I wish there would've
been a little bit of response from the female in the waitress sketch.  The male
char's ego was comically overdone. The dumb friend char was in place.  It was
ripe for the waitress to chop him down and fire off the scene's best lines but
alas she didnt After whore was thrown out for the umpteenth time with noi
response it began to feel a little mysognistic  the funniest part was her
flubbing her lines
  sacred PLace--- Granted NS really isn't the place for those kind of speeches
I give her a lot of credit for putting her heart into it.  You could almost
feel her having  this "oh shit I'm in the wring place for this aren't I halfway
thru the speech, so I credit her for finishing it strongly.
 
 again the others had strong points. I got a kick out of the sing along and the
creative killings  with those handmade guns
 
the blind one had some funny musings
 
I have to say, I don't know how funny Mickey Mouse was, but it was soo
interesting and there were just enough laughs out loud to keep it moving
 
Also along with Mickey, the whole concept of the Gandhi DB destroyer alone was
interesting enough for a sketch and to see the Tom Greenish energy he put into
without all the Tom Greenish annoyance was refreshing  no complaints there
 
the musical number with the guitar and that fisher price thing
the guitar was a little boring and out of sync but whatever
maybe b/c I had never heard that other instrument i enjoyed the playing
either way the audience obviously liked it more than the people weighing in
I'm womdering if the critics were part of the duo I sat a couple rows back of
I think one took tix  they reminded me of those two muppet critics who hate
everything  ..."well you know that sucked b/c....and he can't act...well
those guys ARE the TRL of No Shame...they really can't act well...why does he
get up there.."  anyway I will admit confusion as to why the audience laughed
when she spoke since I didn't hear a word she said
 
I'm leaving the best for last
2 sketches blew me away
 
First the Balls Campbell one god that was so funny and so intyeresting at the
same time.  And when I though it was becoming more normal and may get sluggish
BOOM another line that hit me upside the head
Some of the best comedic moments are when someone pulls out the big comedic
guns hits you with a punchline and just as youre ready for a lul the person
pulls out an even funnier line.  "And then I actually licked off her face b/c
she had leprosy and..." I was on the floor at that point
 
 
That last one made the trip worthwhile but is what I would've expected as the
top of fine form of NS.  It may be awhile since I've been here but once you've
had "Clint's Butt" you know where the bar is at.  BTW does anyone remember
I aint no fucking homo where a manly man goes on stage and says with increasing
intensity his feelings for another man after each stanza "That's okay cause I
aint no fucking homo" going from you're in my thoughts to screaming exploding
in passions of love" or something like that I would pay for that transcript.
 
There should be a section on the website for classic no Shame scripts
Is there?? i've never gone to the site.  In fact, if someone could post the URL
it would be appreciated.
 
But I was not expecting the experience I got in Judas Tree
Maybe it was because I used to go to poetry slams and open mics where music and
poetry is so effortlessly intertwined
Maybe it was because I like listening to beat albums where jazz and blues mixed
with fine rhymes
Maybe it was because I am so conditioned to not enjoy non humor at NS
Maybe it was because I am so used to the shock humor of killing carson Daly
or killing gandhi
Maybe it was just because I hadn't expected to hear such an emotional plea and
such quality poetry recited at NS
 
whatever it was I was completely overwhelmed by its beauty and its simplicity
It transported outside away from No Shame into the forest with them and no
matter how they really felt or thought I believed every word.
Although it would be wonderful to have a transcript of that, (unlike I aint no
fucking homo)  I could not recreate the magic of the blending that was Chris's
cool solemn speaking voice with the background guitar with Ben's gravelly
smooth singing voice with  the words that were on the page.
Beautiful
 
again just my .02    feel free to criticize
ps Prufrock's comments about the myths of who he is and everyone else easily
place above at least 10 o the sketches on fri nite
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Apr 17, 2000 08:53 from Ender
 
I remember that Clint Corley piece of which you speak.  "And if my gaze should
happen to linger on your glistening body as you emerge from the shower, it's
okay.  Cause you know I ain't no fickin' homo...." etc., etc.  (I think
somewhere around the penetration of the "rosebud anus" I would have guessed
that the character was indeed a homo, but hey, he was pretty insistent on that
point..)
 
re: getting up there and mumbling for 20 seconds, I don't claim to have
presented something highly intelligible, but I hope my volume level wasn't a
problem.  The piece I was given to present was very exacting in terms of
pronunciation, and I like to think I did a faithful presentation of it.
Obviously no one is obligated to like the results, but I appreciate it when
people try new things.  And I also appreciate people who speak up when they
don't like something, because that (especially when accompanied by constructive
criticism) is valuable feedback.  Not criticizing your critique, btw--with some
pieces "I liked it" or "I didn't" is about as in-depth as it can get.  I just
hope people don't find fault with experimentation, because if you can't
experiment at No Shame then it has outgrown its roots.
 
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Apr 17, 2000 08:54 from Quicheo
The web site URL:  www.noshame.org  There are plenty of classic scripts--just
go to the Archives and look under Complete Script's Index.  Indexed by
performer.  Enjoy!
 
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Apr 17, 2000 10:42 from God
Just for clarification, what was the mumbled piece about? I can't remember that
one at all, and as it was only my second No Shame ever, I can't differentiate
between most of you crazy kids.
 
Also, where can I get me a piece of that hot Rothschild action? Titillating,
man. Titillating.
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Apr 17, 2000 11:30 from Sparkychick
The mumbled piece was pretty fabby on the page, though I doubt I'd have
been able te fiello eet ef Ay whorr ecksheily utt Neuw Shim.  The
modern-english version was very very nice too.  Something very '30s about
it, dense & real. Carolyn should write more.
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Apr 17, 2000 13:03 from Carolyn
I wonder if, in retrospect, it would have been better to have Adam describe
what I was playing with before he performed the piece.  Technically I was
playing with an idea I got from the Canadian poet Ted Rasula.  He took two of
Wallace Stevens' poems that had the same number of syllables and inserted the
vowel sounds from one into the other.  When he read the piece out loud, I could
somewhat follow the meaning of the poem whose consonants were being read--but
they sounded somewhat ghostly--kind of like middle English--I had to strain to
follow the meaning--it was just shimmering under the surface.
 
I was also reading about 18th-century language theories recently.  Rousseau had
this argument that vowel sounds were the heart of language--because they were
created from within the body.  As opposed to consonants which are made with the
lips, tongue, teeth--the very edges of the body.  And various people I told
this to really responded to this idea about vowels being somehow more
meaningful than consonants.
 
So I took the vowels from "One Art" by Elizabeth Bishop--a villanelle (a poetic
form which means that there will be repeated vowel patterns), and put them into
something I wrote.  "One Art" is an amazing poem about loss, and the thing that
I wrote was about loss.
 
I had hoped that parts of the meaning of the piece would have come
through--that it would have been a play of sound and meaning that would have
been vaguely haunting.
 
But maybe it wasn't clear enough to stand on its own, or maybe NS was'nt the
right venue.
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Apr 17, 2000 13:34 from Subotai
20 Bucks and a bootleg of the new radiohead album can get you all the
Rothschild action you want. That or a really good sandwich.
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Apr 17, 2000 13:35 from Thufir
Define "really good".  I mean, a twenty-dollar sandwich better be laced with
THC.
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Apr 17, 2000 13:36 from God
Do you have a preference on the sort of sandwich?
And am I allowed to call it a "sammich"?
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Apr 17, 2000 14:52 from Ender
 
So, it looks like the order for the Best of No Shame is being assembled
tomorrow night.  That means that if you have an opinion, now's the time to
speak up...  Go here to review the orders for this semester:
 
http://www.noshame.org/iowacity/ord00_spring.htm
 
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Apr 17, 2000 16:21 from Subotai
What I meant was that either 20 dollars/radiohead OR a good sandwich can obtain
my services. And yes, sammich is also an acceptiable term.
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Apr 18, 2000 00:20 from Frackledart
i thought the "20 seconds of mumbling" poem DID work, and i don't think adam
was too quiet or nothin'. i think maybe cuz you're used to things being rammed
into your eye sockets and earholes with every passing second during a typical
n.s. piece, it was maybe a shock to the system to have something subtle that
actually took some focus to comprehend. just cuz it wasn't instantly accessable
and obvious doesn't mean it didn't work. so i think.
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Apr 18, 2000 05:02 from Thufir
Well, Frackledart, whether or not it worked is really a matter of taste from
person to person, now, isn't it.  Maybe it worked for you; no need to be snooty
about differing tastes.
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Apr 18, 2000 08:35 from Ender
 
I think frackledart's post wasn't snooty or nothin'!  i think maybe cuz you're
used to things being whispered sweetly into your earholes with every passing
second during a typical NS post, it was maybe a shock to the system to have
something less subtle that...er..
 
In other news, illustrator Edward Gorey died Saturday at age 75.  Bummer.
 
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Apr 18, 2000 09:49 from Y And F
I apologize and half take balk what I said about that speaker
Maybe , at least for me, it was the wrong venue
it left me with a "huh?" but when the author explained it sounds a lot cooler
 
I repeat my ques if BONS is in 2 weeks then is there a NS this Fri and if so
are those sketches not considered for BONS
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Apr 18, 2000 10:05 from Ender
 
The week before BONS, the order for BONS is announced so those pieces can't be
considered.  This week is traditionally known, therefore, as "Dead Week."  And
for those who aren't leaving town anytime soon, Dead Week pieces are considered
for the Best of No Shame the _next_ time it happens.
 
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Apr 18, 2000 11:29 from Quicheo
And, contrary to previous, well-intentioned posts, the BONS board
meeting/haggle will be Thursday, not tonight.  Still have time to say what you
liked or didn't, or what you liked or didn't about what other people liked or
didn't, or whatever.
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Apr 18, 2000 11:37 from Patrick
 
Carolyn: That sounds like a very fascinating idea.  I wish i could have
witnessed it in person.  Was it the sort of piece that demands an oral
presentation (to properly "experince" the vowel sounds) or would it be
something that i might be able to recreate by simply readin gthe script?  If
the latter, then perhaps i could get a copy?  Keep up the bar-raising work!
 
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Apr 18, 2000 23:01 from Carolyn
Patrick--Adam came up with an effective way of scripting the piece so it might
make some sense to a reader--or at least so that a reader could recreate it,
hopefully.  Drop your email address in my Mail>, and I'll send it to you.
 
Hey--is BONS going to be taped?  Wishfully-thinking minds want to know.
 
Speaking of BONS, could the feather duster piece work a second time?
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Apr 18, 2000 23:07 from Alice From Hell
Feather duster piece?
I hope that's got nudity involved.
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Apr 19, 2000 10:02 from Quicheo
Ironically, why, yes it does!
 
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Apr 19, 2000 10:16 from Carolyn
And what kind of irony is that, exactly?
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Apr 19, 2000 10:35 from Ender
 
The best kind...
 
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Apr 19, 2000 11:16 from Carolyn
Isn't it ironic?  Don't you think?
A little too ironic?  (And, yeah, I really do think . . .)
 
It's like nudity-ee-ee
In a featherduster sketch,
It's the mumbled line,
that you just didn't catch.
It's the order read,
at a tumultuous pace,
It's the joke you wrote,
falling flat on its face . . .
 
Isn't ironic?
 
etc. etc.
 
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Apr 19, 2000 12:37 from Patrick
 
Yeah, cuz one hand's in my pocket and my other is makin' a peas sign.  Or
hailin' a taxicab, or flickin' my cigarette.
 
(Eek, does she really think??)
 
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Apr 19, 2000 13:09 from Carolyn
Ironically, I had always heard the phrase as "peace sign", but I'm now able to
do a complete rereading of Morissette's ouvre using a vegetable paradigm.
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Apr 19, 2000 13:12 from Masque
well now you can mind you peas as well as your queues.
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Apr 19, 2000 13:34 from Prufrock
I always heard her saying "Paisach." hm.
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Apr 19, 2000 14:05 from Quicheo
I always thought she was "making a paisan," and was thrown by her apparent
mafia connections.
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Apr 19, 2000 20:40 from Dan
I think you guys are completely missing the interesting hand here, by which I
mean the one that is constantly in her pocket. Now _that's_ telling.
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Apr 19, 2000 20:59 from Masque
tell us uncle dan
what's her hand telling her pocket?
come seam me sometime?
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Apr 19, 2000 23:01 from Stubble
almost a haiku- should have been "what's the hand tell the pocket?"
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Apr 20, 2000 07:44 from Lammam P Yrruf
Almost a haiku
"What's the hand tell the pocket"
should have been your words.
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Apr 20, 2000 19:28 from Subotai
Don't you need the name of a season in there too?
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Apr 22, 2000 10:35 from Quicheo
1)  No Shame Theatre Must Die by Jamal River
1.5)Flying Reptiles by Jess Clement
2)  Why Kyle Lang Sucks My Nut: A Tribute to Dan "Danger"
"Mother Fucking!!" Brooks by Al "Mother Fucking Hazard" Angel
3)  I Like Dick by Christopher Okiishi
4)  Your Night of Fun by Anwar Williams
5)  A Sappy Poem-Thang by Jessica Ahrendt
6)  4 Out of 5 Masturbation Scenarios Begin with Thoughts of
Three Legged Wildebeests by Neil Van Gorder
7)  Spoo Story by Aaron Galbraith
8)  Juggling My Balls and other Non-Pornographic Activities for
Children of All Ages by Jason Kollum
9)  Seriously... by Will Howard-McKinney
10) A Funky Ass Stray Cat Spanish Groove Thing by Ryan
McLaughlin and Pierre Manukian
10.5) The Dissipating Spinal Adhesive of Love Starring Danger
Brooks as the Spinal Adhesive
11) The 3 AM Inquisition in St. Clementine's Church by Julia
Wilder
12) Flashlight is Here by Arlen Lawson
13) Love by Mose Hayward
14) Sixteen Historical Sketches About Dan Brooks and Cats A
Farewell to Arms by Neil "Balls" Campbell and Mike "Tittikaka"
Cassady
14.5) Dan Brooks a Loch Ness Monster sighting by Chris Stangl
15) Theatre Building by Michael Rothschild
16) Idea Men by Danger Brooks
 
That, in case you didn't know, was the order for 4/21/00.
 
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Apr 22, 2000 10:36 from Quicheo
Amoung the hardest to do yet!  Many terrific pieces were cut due
to time constraints.  Terrific semester, to say the least!
Best of Order:
 
Best of Order:
Vulnerability: Feelings by Kyle Lange
2) Love and Other Four-Letter Words by Christopher Okiishi
2.5) Hallelujah by George Anastasiou
3) A Song by Ben Schmidt
4) I Love Pokemon by Baker McDonald
5) Mothers:  Cant Live With Them, Cant Achieve Orgasm Without
Fanaticizing About Them Staring at You by Arlen Lawson
6) The Fatal Human Gandhi Death Bullet Destroyer by Mose Hayward
7) Three Stories Inspired by Daniil Kharms or Why the Russians
Hate the French by Aprille Clarke
7.5) Melodica Monologua by Mark J. Hansen
8) Girls Who Crave Kant by Merideth Nepstad and Allison McCabe
9) The Worst Thing Ever by Jamal River
10) Look!  Theres a Spider on Your Catch Phrase by Aaron
Gallbraith and Kehry Lane
11) Snow in April Means Well All Die Soon or The Pen is
Mightier Than This Poem by Mike Cassady
12) The Secret of the Orb by Neil Balls Campbell
12.5) Soup Sketch by Mary Fons
13) Hold Your Applause Until the End by James Erwin
14) Dead Turtle by Chris Stangl
14.5) The Unbearable Lightness of Being Kyle Lang by Al Angel
15) The Loco Joes Reason by Dan Brooks
 
Okay, so my cut and paste plan has gone bad...but I think you get the gist..
 
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Apr 25, 2000 12:22 from Kangarooboy
*bites his lip*    Umm....if I can't get someone to work for me.  I won't be
able to do my Pokemon piece.  I'm searching desperately for someone to work for
me, but I don't know what's gonna happen....sorry....
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Apr 25, 2000 16:22 from Friskee
 
Damnit, Baker.  I wanted to see your Gizay Ass!
 
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Apr 28, 2000 18:18 from Ender
 
Posting on behalf of J.C. Luxton:
 
Are you or someone you know cool? Would you like to sit with me at lunch?
Can I touch that secret itchy place upside your elbow? Fat as a
dirigible, your floating sorrow comes:  Comedy Sportz, eight o'clock and
ten o'clock tomorrow night at Riverside.  Can you count a bee? Can you
straddle a tree? If you like I can stand on my hands, and then you can
eat me.  Comedy Sportz, eight o'clock and ten o'clock tomorrow night at
Riverside.  Were side effects present in less than three-out-of-three? If
redness or swelling occurs, consult a physician.  If drooling or muling
or spewing or chewing and swallowing persists, consult a physician.  If
you experience delusions of grandeur, a physician will confirm you are,
in fact, that grand.  If you are pregnant, or think you might be, or
would like to be, Chlamydia Spurtz, eight o'clock and ten o'clock
tomorrow night at Riverside. Who is J. C. Luxton? Find out why.  Comedy
Sportz, eight o'clock and ten o'clock tomorrow night at Riverside.  Do
not adjust your television.  Do not inflate balloons.  Never trust a
person who reads quickly in monotone.
 
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Apr 29, 2000 18:18 from Haz Mat
I was just wondering why we have a best of show when some people are going to
do pieces that are either new or, are just not on the Best Of list.
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Apr 29, 2000 19:34 from Ender
 
Yeah, I guess I lean toward the idea that pieces, not authors, are nominated
for Best Of.  If it were about the authors and not the pieces, then Jamal and
Stangl wouldn't have gotten into BONS because they had somewhere else to be
that night.  But since it's about the work and not about the creator, their
pieces still made it into the show.  So pieces that weren't selected shouldn't
happen, because that would imply the opposite--that a person gets nominated,
not the piece they wrote.  That would be "The Best of No Shame Theatre
Performers" I suppose, but the event is "The Best of No Shame Theatre."
 
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Apr 30, 2000 00:59 from Fishcult
I have to disagree with the pieces vs. performers thing, or at least I have to
disagree in part (I mean, it would be silly of me to make a broad
generalization based on one or two incidents i.e. having a Best Of No Shame at
all and one or two No Shamers performing alternate pieces)  Take, for instance,
the two pieces of mine that have made it into Best Of, the imaginary vomit
sketch from last semester and the hero/damsel/villain/train piece from this.  I
don't think either of these belonged in Best Of.  They just weren't on par with
the rest of the night.  I would go so far as to say that I haven't written a
Best Of piece for as long as I've been at No Shame.  However, I have written
quite a few sketches for No Shame and I am under the impression that people are
amused by them, which might account for the board's decision to select a piece
of mine to put into Best Of.  Also, I think I would be sad if I were not in
Best Of.  Also, your mother.  Also, an alternate piece is not a crime if a
performer's piece was chosen to be indicative of their work, as I believe is
writer/performer's                                his
often the case.
Also, both your mothers.
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Apr 30, 2000 09:25 from Ender
 
Well, I agree that Best of No Shame isn't (though I might like it to be) a
night of pieces selected on the basis of the fact that they kick ass; I think
this would be a good move both for the people who only come to No Shame that
one time every semester and because I too would enjoy a show that was built
with that in mind.
 
On the other hand, I would miss seeing "in joke" pieces and unforgettable
oddball works or particularly representative-of-a-favorite-performer's-work
sort of pieces again, merely because there were pieces that packed more of a
punch.
 
It's almost like there should be two nights, an "us" night (built for regular
performers and audience members who'd know what the heck was going on) and a
Best of No Shame night (built for any audience member regardless of whether
it's their first or 500th visit to No Shame).
 
In any case, as for performing new pieces at Best Of, performers get to perform
new pieces on all the other No Shame nights.  The Best of No Shame is about
either seeing a reviewed/selected piece that was deemed to be kick ass, and/or
about seeing a piece that regulars would appreciate viewing again because it
was cool before.  Or at least that's what I've always thought.  Not every
performer rocks every time they get on stage, and some things are inevitably
better or worse than others.  The Board puts together a show based on their
impressions of which ones were better than others, 'cause that's their job, and
this makes BONS different from any other night.  It's not grab-bag theatre that
night--it's SELECTED theatre.
 
But I still love you all.
 
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Apr 30, 2000 14:33 from Dan
Some thoughts on "The Best" of No Shame:
1) Okay, so keeping the eternal performer/piece selection dichotomy in mind, we
don't try to make a list of the fifteen (or, more frequently, 20) best pieces
of the semester. We try to make the best show we can with the pieces from the
past semester. This is why we don't have a show composed exclusively of three
or four performers; while they might have their names on the fifteen best
pieces, seeing seven pieces by the same person would get really tiresome.
Generally speaking, most of the best pieces have a place in the theoretical
best show. A few, invariably, just don't.
2) Contrary to popular impression, "Best of" does not mean "Most Popular of".
The board is an arrogant, pretentious, non-egalitarian bunch, and we often
disregard popular opinion in favor of our own twisted viewpoints. Sometimes
we're right, sometimes we ain't, but we always get our way, because we clutch
all the power in our hot little hands. Don't like it? Start your own No Shame.
We will crush you and sue you for the use of our name!
3) I am of the opinion that, if you're piece is selected for BONS, you should
do that piece. We picked Mose's piece for a reason, and we put it where it was
in the order for a reason, and both of those reasons were subverted when he
decided to do something new. This is not without precedent, and in the past its
made me want to die as well. It was particularly unfortunate this time, becasue
the piece didn't go over too well. THIS IS WHY YOU DO THE PIECE WE GODDAMN
PICKED. But No Shame is pretty much on the honor system when it comes to rules,
and we can't stop people from taking advantage of that without becoming ugly
authoritarians. (See #2 above.)
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Apr 30, 2000 15:02 from Y And F
I have a question then. If someone who rarely performs, does an amazing oiece
in the view of the board is he/she less likely to get picked because that
person isn't in your minds as much or does that person havce the same chance to
get picked?
 
Also, will there be any No Shame (or a bad facsimile of) performances between
now and August???
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Apr 30, 2000 16:36 from Ender
 
I have seen one-time-only performers get into Best Of on several occasions.
Okay, at least two occasions.  But I'm sure there have been others I am
forgetting or simply wasn't around to know about.
 
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May 1, 2000 00:47 from Subotai
Have to side with Dan on this one. I think it's a violation of the trust the
Board puts in you to say you're better than everyone else who does the piece
that was chosen. I was really uncomfortable watching Mose's piece, because it
wasn't very well done and it shouldn't have been at BONS. It's not the best
performers, and it's not "put one over on the stupid audience". It kinda makes
me glad I'm not doing No Shame anymore, to see people just mess around with the
system and break the trust of others just because they think they can/
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