Oct 28, 1998 23:39 from Fanky Maloon
I think a brief announcement about the No Shame> forum here would be the way to
go.  I remember at one point in a previous semester, Rob mentioned it during
announcements.  And that way, the performers that want to have a place to go
discuss in writing can find their way here, etc.
Printouts would be a quite cumbersome project, methinks.
Save the trees.
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Oct 29, 1998 07:06 from Alice From Hell
*nods*
I like the idea of mentioning ISCA and No Shame> in announcements.
Lot less work. *grins*
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Oct 29, 1998 23:44 from Prufrock
If you're doing that, you should mention the Web site. It's more neater.
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Oct 31, 1998 00:58 from Alethe
the order
1) the oldest skit i haven't used yet by james erwin
2)beloved by mark hanson and steve ellerhoff
3) ultrasuede by mike rothschild
4) rita, a ghostly halloween piece by chris o'kiishi
5) space plan and the rocket man by mike phillips
6) silences and similarities by mandi lee
6.5) smooth jazz by ben schmidt
7) the alternative lifestyle newly wed game by aprille clarke
8) poeticus ex diabolus :a halloween poem by daniel brooks age six
9) crop sounds like crap when an irish person speaks by sarah greer
10) can't get over you  lyrics by chris okiishi and music by greg mitchell and
chris okiishi
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Oct 31, 1998 10:55 from Mose
I've noticed that people generally only feel comfortable heckling when there's
some sort of audience interaction going on, when they're being addressed by the
performer. This is unfortunate, because some skits, say Mike Phillips' "Space
Plan and the Rocket Man" need help that can only be provided by an angry, ad
libbing audience's expressions of disgust.
Chris O'Kiishi was cool as always, and I think we all enjoyed the song. The
Dan Brooks' Poeticus ex ... had a cool ending, I thought. I liked the audience
interaction.
Thanks for all the expressions of sympathy, people. The new brain is working
fine. See ya next week.
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Oct 31, 1998 17:13 from Ender
 
I thought Mandi was a real tropper to volunteer for that piece at the last
second.  And then to deliver with such verve!  :)  Good job.  While I enjoy
things that are memorized and well-rehearsed, it's good to remember that
last-minute theatre has something to offer as well.
 
I thought James Erwin's piece (Sean Connery on the sex line) had a lot of
promise, but the energy would have been stronger if the piece had been shorter.
It was VERY strong at the beginning (that accent was great!) but just kinda
petered out.
 
The game show piece worked similarly, I thought.  Editing and pacing would have
kept things running smoothly, but it ended up feeling long and fragmentedy with
some fun bits in it.
 
The crop/crap piece was solid.  Not the funniest or most engaging piece I've
ever seen, but entertaining the whole way through with the accents (well done)
and the rural banter, and a good wrap-up punchline.
 
...and yes, Chris Okiishi rocks. :)  Even more so with musical accompaniment.
 
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Oct 31, 1998 17:32 from Ender
 
And mentioning songs, in cases where we get the permission of the author, we
may start posting song sound-bytes to the No Shame web site.  It's easy enough
to grab it off of videotape with the right equipment.  Not sure if we would
post entire songs, maybe just one verse and the chorus plus a list-out of the
lyrics.  But at least you could get a taste of how it sounds..
 
And as always, a reminder that the web site is pretty sparse on scripts.  I've
sent what I've got, but there are still very few scripts and years and years of
piece-titles.  To any old-timers and to all current folks, just send your
scripts to NoShTh@aol.com to have 'em put on the web...
 
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Nov 2, 1998 13:52 from Ender
 
What's a tropper, anyway?  (I just re-read my review of the show.)  Some
secretary I am....  (yes, to those of you who don't know, I Clark Kent at ACT
by day.  Where I learn to do things like use names of fictional characters as
verbs.  And to write incomplete sentences...)
 
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Nov 3, 1998 17:53 from Fanky Maloon
I thought it was a decent night considering it was a Mabie surprise.
Ooh, do I hates thems.
 
But I must say that I really really loved Rita.  This piece absolutely kicked
ass.  At first it did seem a bit too familiar, reminding me of the original
Bust Stop piece with Chris, Adam and a cameo by James.  But it quickly became
much better than that - and even _moving_.  That is SO hard to do at No Shame,
much less in Mabie.  I find this piece to be downright monumental.  I will be
raving about it quite a bit when tallies are taken for BONS this semester.
 
...Bust Stop????  heh.  Troppers at the Bust Stop.
 
And as for the eve as a whole well.  Not all that bad for Mabie, rather short.
My only significant complaint - the performer who chose to bound onto stage in
the MIDST of someone else's piece and make a big scene of photographing them.
Without their prior approval or consent, or without even warning them before (I
asked the performers).  And who then proceeded to perform a piece that wasn't
quite good enough to be called mediocre...
If I sound cruel, hey.  That took a lot of nerve to disrupt someone else's
piece like that.
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Nov 3, 1998 18:15 from Lord Stave
Hear hear for Fanky Maloon!
Let us all here and now take a pledge to keep butt-monkeys in gaudy orange
shorts from disrupting good performances and following with sub-par
performances of their own.
If anyone was offended by the term "Butt-Monkey" and has a more acceptable
alternative, feel free to speak out.
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Nov 3, 1998 18:20 from Evil Chick
I think that Rita is one of the best if not the best piece we've seen this
season, it was excellent the way it played with the emotions of the audience
and took us from giggling to having a knot in our throats. Chris: "We are not
wothy we are not worthy!"
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Nov 3, 1998 19:21 from Prufrock
Okiishi dominated last Friday. I say we elect him God-Emperor.
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Nov 3, 1998 19:42 from Avenue Player
except that i saw him (okiishi) walking as i was driving today, and i honked
and waved at him in a friendly manner, and he gave me one of those
pseudofriendly "hi, i have no idea who you are" waves.  but maybe i just forgot
to defrost the windows or something.
 
agreed, though, he's just about the most wonderful No Shamer i've seen.  elton
and i sang the "can't get over you" song all the way home and well into the
next day.
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Nov 3, 1998 21:48 from Dan
Not that I'm really contributing much to discussion here, but I've got to agree
that Rita was a masterfully written and quite proficiently performed piece.
Humor and meaning are a nice (if rare) combination. I'm down with Chris and
Adam, as usual.
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Nov 4, 1998 00:01 from Ender
 
Thanks, Dan.  :)  I may be "just an actor" in some of the pieces Chris and I
perform together, but I like to think I bring something to it.  Creative input
doesn't end when the piece is printed...
 
Of course, every once in a while I get off my butt and actually write something
myself.  It's nice when lightning strikes.  Ah, inspiration.
 
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Nov 4, 1998 09:43 from Thufir
I've always liked Chris and Adam's pieces.
 
And Adam is necessary.  Provides a good "straight man" element.  Laurel and
Hardy, Abbott and Costello, donchaknow.
 
I'll be there this Friday, probably.  Warning you in advance, in case it sucks.
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Nov 4, 1998 10:16 from Quicheo
COMPLETELY agree that Adam is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to any piece he is in.  Like
a ground line or underwire, he keeps the juices flowing and the material
supported.
Also agreed, while I'm all for hero-worshiping performers, and at times, I've
really wanted a picture of a certain No Shame skits from behind, even, oooh,
while they are in progress, these natual impulses must be squashed, never
indulged, however hard this may be.  Perhaps if we present a rule of this
nature in a rhymed cuplet???  ;)
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Nov 6, 1998 06:46 from Trouble
 
  Does one really ELECT someone to be God-Emporer?
 
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Nov 6, 1998 09:20 from Thufir
Sure.  Romans elected Emperors all the time.  Only a short step to God from
there.
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Nov 6, 1998 12:08 from IdleMind
Sure, don't you remember the last time we had to elect God?  Think "negative
campaign ad"
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Nov 6, 1998 12:41 from Adam Warlock
Wait, is that when we elected the totally-nude dancing god?
 
"Can't Get Over You" was definitely great, as was highlander phone sex.
 
Lyrics on the web site?  Pretty please?
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Nov 6, 1998 15:39 from Alethe
I thought rita was a good piece but i didn't think it was his best by far.
i liked his song a great deal.
i liked the beginningof james's piece but it lost some flair somewhere along
the way.
okay night. yup.
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Nov 6, 1998 17:42 from Prufrock
The piece lost flair because Mabie ate up the sound cue and we lost the very
funny lighting, which then destroyed my piece. Poo.
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Nov 7, 1998 01:02 from King Of Kale
Great No Shame tonight. Err, last night? Whatever. A bit uncomfortable for me
as several ex's of mine were there, but I tried to pay attention, honest.
 
Okay, so I didn't like the yellow paper piece. It sort of dragged on quite a
bit.
 
Also, that piece about Eleanor Roosevelt (who happened to be the three
greatest men who ever lived) became somewhat less funny a little bit after
the feces statue bit.  I think the end could have been better.
 
Oh yeah, and I also can't stand mimes.  Or even pieces about mimes.  Dan
did a good job though, for a mime piece.
 
Other than that it was just wonderful. I loved the blind date skit, the
one about casual sex, the absolutely necessary commentary on TOTALLY
NUDE DANCING!, and the one about the boy and the grrrl on the bench.
 
But Okishii should stay away from Galen, he's mine.
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Nov 7, 1998 03:44 from Fanky Maloon
Great great night, and a full full house, I was most highly entertained.
How many pieces total, somewhere around 18?  And to my mind, only maybe two
that weren't at least "good", and a ton which were absolutely great.
 
I'll just throw a smattering of my favorite parts for now:
It can't be said enough.  Chris Okiishi kicks serious No Shame ass.  His
ability to do pieces that branch into meaning from a comedic start is
quite groundbreaking.  The seamless flow from weird comedy to a piece with a
point has now happened twice. First time was my favorite piece of the semester,
if not my favorite No Shjame piece in ages...Rita.
Chris and Adam were in absolutely top for this masterpiece.  The way they
worked back and forth was flawless, the pacing absolutely perfect.
(I told you I'd be harping abou this one ad nauseum, hey)
 
But back to this evening's material.
The Twin Sister piece was masterfully executed.  Lame ending, but hey, he
admitted it.  Talk about a hoot!  Everyone involved was way coo.
 
I really liked Ben Zolno's piece with Dave Smith.  Very reminiscent of some
previous Dave Smith works, and yet not nearly as long and generally better
performed.  If a bit less "meaty".  A good low-fat No Shame piece.  Haven't
seen one of those in a long time.
 
Brad's Jack Handey esque poem was also one of these.  He's got the "short but
sweet" knack down quite well.
 
I highly dug Dan's Mime piece, even though it is somewhat universally
recognized that mimes blow.  I was most surprised to see that Dan actually can
mime - and if he can't he sure as hell can fake it.  And yet it wasn't a "looka
looka I can mime!" piece either.  I do wish I'd have seen the interaction with
the audience member, though, but hey.  Win some, lose some.
 
And I was pleased to see James Horak and...a guy who's name escapes me do some
excellent work.  I was getting worried about Horak's work with the mediocre at
best Gatorade monologue.  And though the Bette Midler piece was rather a long
toilet humor piece, it was well scripted, and it moved.
 
More to come once the order is posted.  No Shame High!!! 8)
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Nov 7, 1998 10:19 from Quicheo
The order, as best as I can construct it:
1)  The Ugly Truth--by Rat Snack McGrack, aka Greg Mitchell
2)  Looking Glass--by Carolyn Space Jacobson
3)  Rock Hard Turds.  Are Funny. by Jamal and his girl River
4)  incoherency or a poem--by brad smith  (lower case is his choice...)
5)  You're Making It HARD for Me  By Brian Lucky and Eric Ritztofer II
6)  Interruptions--by Chris Okiishi (with help from Adam Burton, Kim Benesh,
       and Eric Straumanis)
7)  Bittersweet Mime Piece #497 or All My Comedy Turned into Tragedy When I
Wasn't Looking--by Danger Brooks
7.5)Apples and Oranges don't make Banabas--by Amelia Durlim
8)  Blind Date--by Brad, Mark and Steve
9)  Rubix Cube--by Ryan Hayslett
10) Rides--by Christopher Okiishi
11) Casual Sex--by John Ham
12) Battle Lines--by Michael Rothschild
13) I Wish I Had Changed My Urine-Soaked Undergarments Before The Show!  Next,
A Comedy Skit--by Chris Stangl Who Is Fantastic!
14) Lightbulbs Make Me Squeamish and My Butt Hurts--by James "pillow talk"
Horak and Aaron "drags teeth while giving blowjobs" Gailbraith
15) Smooth Yellow pater and the Fellow--by Mike "The Letterman" Phillips
16) My Penis is really small--by Aaron Galbraith
17) K's Revenge--by George Anastasiou
There you go--enjoy!!   Thanks to all who performed or came or thought good
thoughts for a great time!
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Nov 7, 1998 10:35 from Quicheo
ooops!!  #15 should read "Smooth Yello PAPER and the Fellow."  Sorry to mar
your surely pristine memories of this piece...
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Nov 7, 1998 11:08 from Fanky Maloon
Yes, more from me, the long-winded No Shame obsessive.  Eeee.  I dig.
 
I somewhat hate to admit it, but I still liked both of Christ Stangl and Jamal
River's pieces.  Even though they are clearly stuck on the whole
butt/fart/piss/shit/shock joke thing, and I've probably seen enough of their
asses to last me a lifetime.  I'm probably putting too much weight in the fact
that the two are ALWAYS memorized, always have a lot of lines, never ever blow
them, have great ability to time their lines and bounce off one another, and
just generally execute nearly flawlessly.  While a lot can definitely be said
about rearranging their concept, I'd still say they've got a lot going for
them.  My only other significant criticism of their pieces this week would be
that the "making fun of retarded people for shock value" thing seemed almost
too much of a throw to Something About Mary.  Not that I've any clue if they've
seen it, but a lot of us have and are somewhat over the technique.
And on that note, same with the Horak/ Galbraith piece about Better Midler,
with the fella getting his member stuck in his fly.  Lots of Something About
Mary fans lately, or am I insane?
 
I also liked most of the piece by Brian Lucky and Eric R....something.  But it
did end rather weakly, which was too bad, it seemed to be scripted quite well.
 
Since I haven't mentioned this one specifically, Interruptions clearly kicked
ass.  With some pieces, it's clear that everyone involved worked on the piece a
_lot_, and this was one of those.  It was also way cool to have a local
musician involved (who was fantastic).  A great No Shame debut for Kim (if this
was her debut; I haven't seen her before), and a great job by Adam admiring her
body as the guitarist commented on it.  I'm also heavy into priceless looks,
and the bench pose with Kim and Adam was clearly golden.
 
I am also WAY into Mike Rothschild (sp?) and his work.  I thought Battle Lines
completely kicked booty.  Brad is becoming a big No Shame star, and I think
that's way hip.  Totally Nude Dancing.
 
The candle poem thing was okay, not too long....but shouldn't the lights have
been down...WAY down for this?  It seemed bizarre to have  a candle lit...and
the lights up full for a somber poem read.
 
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Nov 7, 1998 11:19 from Fanky Maloon
No, I can't shut up.
 
A few more additions:
The yellow pad piece.  I once again don't mean to be cruel, but this was the
low point of the evening.  He's done the non-sequitur poem thing before, and it
hasn't yet gone over that well.  And this was as bad as it has been previously,
and seemed much longer.  Perhaps partially because it came so late in the
order, but no matter.  And though I'd rather have him do it than not, the whole
"pounding the table really hard for occasional emphasis" really didn't work.
Since...simply, the poem didn't really feel like it was going anywhere.
 
It seemed like Aaron Galbraith's psycho poem, done right after Yellow Pad,
while clearly imperfect, was "Here's how to do a non sequitur poem at No
Shame".  Some good stuff, decently performed.  I liked the confused look on his
face, and in particular the line about the bird taking one on his face as he
looked up into the sky.  Heh.
 
And to hop back - it was great to have a Carolyn piece again!  I unfortunately
didn't catch all of it since I was recovering from out little ditty, but I did
like what I caught.  I had a wee bit of trouble catching hold of the concept
originally - I thought that it was a commentary on this particular woman's
height since she's rather tall.  But became clear quickly enough.  And once
again, good stuff by Kim.
 
I thought George's piece was a decent concept decently executed, but it would
have worked a lot better had it been a shorter night.  I think that people were
out of energy by the time he got up there and tried to get people to dance.
Not that there were no dancers, but it could've been a bigger hit.  Also, the
sound was okay, but that little tape player just wasn't quite up to the job of
cranking out a tune for everyone to shake their booties to.
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Nov 7, 1998 11:42 from Lord Stave
Right now, I feel a bit like the fat comic book store guy from the Simpsons.
Remember that episode when a crappy Itchy and Scratchy was shown and he uttered
the immortal line "Rest assured I was on the internet within moments
registering my disgust to millions across the globe."  But dammit, this has to
be addressed: "Smooth Yellow Paper and the Fellow" sucked.  Everyone near me
was totally not into it.  A couple of girls in front of me were thumb
wrestling, others were talking and writing notes to each other on the backs of
their scripts (when applicable), and several people had "Please God, kill me or
him now" looks on their faces, especially when he turned the page and we saw
another full page of the same thing.
Each of us is going to die someday.  It's a fact.  Given that, why should we
spend any of our limited time on this planet held hostage to that sort of crap?
It's murder on a really really small scale.  He stole 5 minutes (or did he go
over the time limit?  It sure felt that way) of our lives that could have been
used more productively.
 
OK, enough of that, on to some of the happier memories of the evening, which
despite the aforementioned low point, was one of the best No Shames we've had
recently.
 
Okiishi did it again.  I don'
t (No, I really can type) know where his talent comes from, but I wish he could
bottle it.  He was amazing as always, his transitions from hilarious to
poignant in "Rides" was flawless again.  And interruptions was just plain fun,
worth the price of admission alone.
 
Chris Stangl and Jamal River were great as well.  The bit about the knife in
the first piece was highly amusing, and the paper bag puppet introducing
Eleanor Roosevelt belongs in the annals of No Shame history as one of the best
pieces of goofy humor ever.
 
Dan's mime piece was quite good.  It seems lately that he's been taking a much
more low key, philosophical approach to his works, but he's doing quite well
with it.  Anybody who can do mime for more than ten seconds without making me
want to visit bodily harm upon them has to be doing something right.
 
Special mention should be made for "The Ugly Truth" and "Casual Sex", as they
were both very good pieces that didn't get much recognition.  I could go on,
but fortunately for all of you I won't.
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Nov 12, 1998 12:31 from BenZBoy
testing...
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Nov 12, 1998 12:32 from BenZBoy
5 days?
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Nov 12, 1998 12:34 from Babbling Wombat
Til what?
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Nov 12, 1998 13:49 from BenZBoy
from my last message to anyone else's in the forum
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Nov 12, 1998 13:52 from Babbling Wombat
WHats your point?
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Nov 12, 1998 13:52 from Ender
 
...that it's kinda quiet in here.  in here.  nhere..  here.. ere...re...r.
 
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Nov 12, 1998 13:57 from Evil Chick
Because we are waiting for tomorrow to say anything. right?
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Nov 12, 1998 15:09 from Babbling Wombat
Exactly.  Tomorrow is the big night.. and then the next friday is the next big
night, etc etc.  Which reminds me, is there going to be a show on the friday
after Thanksgiving?  Dunno if there typically is or not, heh.
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Nov 12, 1998 15:03 from Ender
 
Yeah, 'cept only two or three people said anything about LAST week..  But maybe
everyone agreed with everything that was said, so no need to post.
 
I liked the Looking Glass piece a lot.  (That was the second piece, the one
where the woman was talking about being so big next to her Dad who she later
learned was actually normal sized-ed, just over six feet in fact...)  I'll
admit a bias, but when I read it before the show I thought it leapt off the
page.  I'm not sure it really reached the audience as well as I'd hoped,
though.  Carolyn's classic delivery (she being the author) would have perhaps
served it better; Kim did a good reading, but eye contact with the audience
adds a lot, and she was too busy making sure she hit all those unusual words
while reading them from a sorta small printout to really gaze into the crowd
much.
 
I also got a big kick out of freezing on stage for two minutes or so.  I dunno
why; it's kind of like anti-acting, just being up there doing nothing, but
there's a strange sort of oomph in motionlessness, a contained energy that has
it's own stage presence.  I don't know quite what I mean by that, but I don't
have to. :)
 
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Nov 12, 1998 15:26 from Ender
 
...and yes, there's usually a No Shame the Friday after Thanksgiving.
 
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Nov 12, 1998 15:30 from Ender
 
I also have say that Chris Stangl continues to be a riveting performer.  He
just walks on stage and he has everyone's attention.  I just wish he could get
past the lowest common denominator approach to comedy.  It's a personal
preference of mine, and an artistic (if applicable) choice on his part.  I
liked everything but the urine/poop/fart stuff.  If he enjoys that kinda joke,
good for him, but I hope he doesn't think he NEEDS base humor (like a crutch
that helps him get by).  He's plenty capable of owning an audience without it.
 
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Nov 12, 1998 19:40 from Evil Chick
Yes, definitely.  Although I generally can't stand scatological humor, I think
that Jamal River and Chris Stangl can pull it off without falling into that
crude, vulgar, and unfunny Jim Carrey/Terrence and Phillip mode that a lot of
other performers get into.
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Nov 13, 1998 19:51 from Ender
 
By the way--I was SO COMPLETELY WRONG when I said that No Shame would be
happening the Friday after Thanksgiving.  For some total brainfart reason I
thought  we were talking about the Friday of the week AFTER Thanksgiving, and
of course we would have a show THAT week.  But there is no show the day after
Thanksgiving.
 
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Nov 14, 1998 02:12 from Dan
The order for Friday, November 13th, the best damn No Shame in recent memory:
1) The No Shame Games by Mandi Lee
2) Something I've Been Thinking About by Will Nedved
3) Does Not Have a Title, Because I Want to Spend More Time Actually Working On
the Script Itself. But Then I've Written Too Much Already, Help, Help...No
Title...Overpowering...Must...Stop...Argh! Sorry, This Was Written by George
Anastasiou
4) Accent Therapy by Chris Okiishi
5) Romeo by Bob Alanis
6) Hard Sell by Kevin Dean
7) Off Into the Night by Greg Mitchell
8) Mother by Will Bundy
9) The Language of Brutality or It's Times Like This I Like to Remind You I'm
Playing Characters Up Here by Danger Brooks
10) And Now, An Interview by Mike Rothschild
11) Smut by Bob Alanis
12) My Little Roach Buddy by Mike Fergades
13) Lines by Chris Okiishi
14) A Visit to the Doctor by Mike Rothschild
15) Normal People International by Mark Hansen
16) Like Father, Like No One by Brad Smith
17) Like a Baby's Behind: An Allegory by Aprille Clarke
18) Okay, Here's the Raw Truth About Why I Won't Go Out With You or This Piece
Is Not About Musical Talent by Sarah Greer
And lo, the masses were pleased.
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Nov 14, 1998 09:20 from Quicheo
Okay, so Greg Mitchel, for my money, gave the most laughs for the least words.
I understand that he, at the last moment, changed the object of his affection
from a blow-up doll to a yak, which I'm sure later performers were pleased
about.
Good night in general.  The "Normal People" skit was the best that trio has
done.  The staff cameo was cool.  Aprille's piece was delightful in a
disturbing way as always, and had the best sight gags of the evening.  George
made a great orgasm, proving his ability to create a believable character
despite accusations in his own piece to the contrary.  Nice song at the end,
well delivered, with great subtle references to the Dick Van Dyke show.  Nice
to see Will Nedved and he was hardly resting on his laurels--cute piece, even
though I sang the freaking waterfalls song all the way home.
Special mention of Dan Brooks.  Very daring work, in that he took what in
lesser hands could have been a VERY offensive satire, and really made it work.
Taking a bad attitude towards women to it's logical conclusion was effective
and edgy.  And the coin toss at the end was a masterful wink and an nod.  Made
the later reference to female orgasm seem mean, which it may be, but we woulnd'
t have thought so without Dan.  He is the true heir to No Shame Goddess titile.
(BTW--Mandi's game was really fun, although I pretty much sucked.  I was up
late reliving the moment in my mind, only with better answers, before I could
sleep.  Sorry for letting No Shame down.  Nice to have Mandi back after her
week off, though)
Reminder--Best of No Shame is rapidly approaching (only two more regular shows
left!!!), so get those submissions in!!  Submittt!! Attend!!!  Tell your
friends!!!!!
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Nov 14, 1998 09:37 from Quicheo
Oh, and it really sucked having to follow the great Roach Buddy song.  I'll
have to scan the title list more carefully...although in such a good night, any
placement would have bit for one reason or another.
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Nov 14, 1998 10:40 from Fanky Maloon
This is my week to be short and shuddup, so I'll keep it nice and tidy,
promise.
(I fear my lengthy rants have previously stifled discussionm, which sux)
 
But I absolutely loved Dan's piece.  This was _tight_.  It didn't have to
branch off in sixty million unrelated directions just to keep our interest, it
had a well designed intro, body and terrific conclusion.  While it didn't have
as many showstoppingly hilarious lines as some of his other works, I think this
was one of his best projects as a whole unit.  Maybe I'm just a misogynist.
 
And I have to say again, Brad Smith, Mike Rothschild and Mark Hansen crack me
up.  The line about the grade of a "C" is pure and absolute genius writing by
Brad and perfect performing by Mike.
 
On the negative side, I didn't really see why the audience got so into the
Roach Buddy piece.  It wasn't atrocious, but it did seem long for what it had
to say.  Maybe everyone was just happy that the boom box actually worked?
 
But a very eggselent night as a whole, yis!
Oh, and a really quick rundown of others:  the Game Show was cool and I'm glad
I don't ever have to do improv 8), I really liked both of Chris's pieces,
especially the first one even if they didn't get the usual audience support.  I
liked most of Sarah Greer's song, it was cool that James Erwin was finally
getting all of that well deserved applause and attention.  Aprille's piece was
goofy and fun, and I really liked Dan's performance in the "There's a Boil on
your Ass" sketch.
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Nov 14, 1998 11:50 from Ender
 
A problem I've faced sometimes when I want to discuss the show in here is
simply not remembering which piece was which.  With 18 pieces, funny but not
always indicative titles, and a lot of new performers, it can be hard to keep
track.  So in the hopes of helping anyone else facing the problem (and with the
much-appreciated recollection assistance of Chris Okiishi and Greg Mitchell), I
am re-posting the order with brief references to piece content.  If this
facilitates more discussion, I might make a habit of it.  (And if you DON'T
have memory problems, just hit "q" to skip the rest of this message, since it's
kinda long.)  Here goes!
 
1) The No Shame Games by Mandi Lee
      Chris Okiishi, James Erwin, and Dan Brooks (under Mandi's guidance
      as game show host) vie for the title of No Shame Goddess of the
      Evening, facing the haiku, trivia, and interpretive dance challenges.
      Of the three, James Erwin had no warning at all to the best of my
      knowledge, Chris knew "something was up" about five minutes ahead of
      time, and I would estimate similarly for Dan.
 
2) Something I've Been Thinking About by Will Nedved
      Will does a monologue that ends with singing bits from songs like
      (as note by Chris earlier) "Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls."
 
3) Does Not Have a Title, Because I Want to Spend More Time Actually Working On
   the Script Itself. But Then I've Written Too Much Already, Help, Help...No
   Title...Overpowering...Must...Stop...Argh! Sorry, This Was Written by George
   Anastasiou
      George talks to someone (lines directed at a center-ish point in the
      audience), telling her how much he loves her, even though she's one of
      his students.  (Delivered straight-faced, written to inspire moments of
      rapt attention and others of humor.)
 
4) Accent Therapy by Chris Okiishi
      Chris plays a therapist, I play his client, he tries to cure my lack of
      assertiveness by getting me to speak in a tough-guy Brooklyn accent.
 
5) Romeo by Bob Alanis
      Bob plays a guy who's on a date; we can't see his ladyfriend, but we
      learn she's a bit of an airhead (ouch).  Not sure who played his
      roommate.
 
6) Hard Sell by Kevin Dean
      Two guys (one of whom was probably the author, but who knows) do a
      sketch about the devil describing the benefits of hell over heaven,
      including a 401K retirement package, profit-sharing, etc.
 
7) Off Into the Night by Greg Mitchell
      [LIGHTS UP on Greg standing centerstage with his right foot resting
      on the seat of a chair, looking manly.  Absolutely deadpan delivery.]
      "It's been a long time since I've sodomized a Ukrainian musk ox."
      [pause for the laughter to die down.]
      "....and I'm not going to wait even one more minute."
      [Greg walks up the center aisle and out of the theatre.  BLACKOUT.]
 
8) Mother by Will Bundy
      Guy delivers a long, serious monologue, descriptive text, sounds more
      like he's reading from a book than a theatre script.
 
9) The Language of Brutality or It's Times Like This I Like to Remind You I'm
   Playing Characters Up Here by Danger Brooks
      Dan is calling to Ginger ("Here girl [whistle] Ginger!  Come here!") and
      then begins discussing problems he's having with his wife....  (Ginger).
 
10) And Now, An Interview by Mike Rothschild
      George Anastasiou plays orgasm embodied, and is interviewed by a talk
      show host played by Brad Smith.
 
11) Smut by Bob Alanis
      Bob and a woman whose name I don't know play friends trying to summon the
      spirits of the dead with a ouija board.
 
12) My Little Roach Buddy by Mike Fergades
      Mike tells us the story of a little roach friend he made, who he killed
      at their first meeting and then befriended.  Breaks quickly into song and
      expressive, semi-melancholy movement/dance.
 
13) Lines by Chris Okiishi
      Chris talks about waiting in the line to get out of the finkbine parking
      lot, about parents and sex and snacks, the vastly separate at-home and
      at-work lives of his father, and where it has all led.
 
14) A Visit to the Doctor by Mike Rothschild
      Three people waiting to see a doctor, piece quickly degenerates into
      naming embarassing conditions, someone interrupts the piece and the
      perpetrators are removed, scene recommences, someone else uses
      inappropriate language, etc. until remaining performers apologize for
      the entirety of the piece.
 
15) Normal People International by Mark Hansen
      Establishing a fund for people who are well-fed, housed, clothed, and
      generally not in need of anything, because they're the only people who
      DON'T have a charity yet.
 
16) Like Father, Like No One by Brad Smith
      Brad plays someone trying to talk to his Dad (played by Mike Rothschild),
      but Dad is not havin' it.  Gets mad at Brad's grades ("Do you know what
      a 'C' looks like, son?  A man trying to suck his own cock!  How average
      is THAT?"), at his talking about his health, etc.
 
17) Like a Baby's Behind: An Allegory by Aprille Clarke
      Aprille, Mike Rothschild, and Lori Keefer (sp?) play three women who are
      trying to keep the world a clean-shaven place.  James Erwin plays the
      Statue of Liberty, who they also feel needs a bit of clear-cutting.
 
18) Okay, Here's the Raw Truth About Why I Won't Go Out With You or This Piece
    Is Not About Musical Talent by Sarah Greer
      Sarah sings a song about (and sometimes to) her friend Robert, played by
      James Erwin, who just won't get the point that she's not interested in
      dating him.
 
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Nov 14, 1998 12:15 from Avenue Player
okeeeee...
 
for an 18-piece night, i was suprisingly and consistently entertained.  what
with my short attention span and all, that's a really impressive thing.  i even
hooted with laughter on several occasions.  wowza.  lemme think now...
 
it was wonderful seeing all the new performers.  i was particularly impressed
by the guy who did the little cockroach buddy piece.  admittedly, i've missed
my share of No Shames this semester (i have fridays off and it's reaaaally easy
to take off for long weekends), but there were like five or six performers i'd
never seen before in my life.  that was cool.
 
the blow-up doll guy (bob?) was just so adorable.  i thought his delivery was
really natural and fun, and even if the piece was a little on the predictable
side.  the especially fresh (like, in the "natural, free-flowing" sense, not
hepcat slang) moments were when he was offering the ring to the blowup doll,
etc.  oh, and the butt-wiggling was hilarious.
 
the woman who did the ouija board piece with him is Allison Hefley.
 
greg made me want to fall down with laughter due to his splendid timing and
determined look as he headed down the stairs.
 
sarah greer is not only a good writer and performer, she is also female.  she's
a very nice person, to boot.  i just love people like that.  the only problem i
had with her piece was the low volume.  it worked ok in b, and i was also
sitting in the second row, but she would have gotten swallowed like a
flintstones vitamin in mabie.
 
a note to okiishi:  giggle-inducing as always, especially with your
sock-it-to-the-gut endings (those aren't giggle-inducing.  you know what i
mean), but l'Ames is NOT a suburb, ok?
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Nov 14, 1998 12:47 from Kirk
Does anyone know Chris Okiishi's email?  Or is he on ISCABBS?
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Nov 14, 1998 14:27 from Ender
 
He's Quicheo here on ISCA.
 
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Nov 16, 1998 15:28 from FerrisBueller
Hiya Everybody.  I just found out about the No Shame board here at ISCA.
My name's Bob Alanis (aka the blow up doll guy) and I'm looking forward to
performing at No Shame on a regular basis.  Anyways, I just wanted to say
thanks to Avenue Player for the review of my piece.  I sort of wanted to test
the waters (that being only my second time attending No Shame), and now I'm
already writing more... thought out skits.
Well, I'm going to be checking this place out from now on, and I'll see you all
on Fridays!
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Nov 16, 1998 15:38 from FerrisBueller
Oh, and referring back several topics, I think it's a good thing to at least
mention this board at the shows.  I never would have found it if my friend
hadn't pointed it out to me. Bu-bye
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Nov 16, 1998 15:47 from Quicheo
Okay, so I tried to imbue a little glamour into my birth place by calling it a
suburb.  A kid can dream, can't he?  ;)  (Good point, none the less, avenue
player.)
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Nov 16, 1998 16:33 from Alice From Hell
Mentioning ISCA and the No Shame forum at No Shame?
What a novelle idea.
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Nov 16, 1998 17:24 from Ender
 
I believe Bob was acknowledging that it had been discussed before and that he
agrees.  Or at least that's what he said.
 
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Nov 16, 1998 17:22 from BenZBoy
I have an idea, an it's only a bit cynical.  Next couple of shows, let's count
the jokes that don't rely on "oh, you might be homo" or "I shoved a shovel up
my anus; wait, actually my dad did it for then licked it" humor.
                I realize,
                        of course,
                                That I may have just volunteered myself.
But won't someone join me, for science's sake?
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Nov 16, 1998 20:01 from Alice From Hell
A novelle idea, as in new, NEVER USED BEFORE.
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Nov 16, 1998 20:25 from Ender
 
A "novel idea" is:
 
1) "New in a striking or unusual way.  Fresh, unfamiliar, unusual."
   i.e., hasn't been THOUGHT Of before, regardless of implementation.
 
2) An idea for a book.
 
A "novelle" idea IS new and unusual, and wasn't locatable in my dictionary.
 
Your point, however, Alice, would appear to be "I said that and no one did
anything about it."  Cry me a river.  It's not like no one listened, and some
people (Bob and myself included) think it is worth pursing, and the board AND
the web site administrator have discussed it.  We don't all have LIVES or
anything though.  When time permits, something may be done, whether or not you
make snippy little comments here.
 
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Nov 16, 1998 21:11 from Ender
 
(As for simple mention of the bbs and/or web site during the announcements, the
announcements already have the potential to be an unweildy speedbump at the
beginning of the night before the show has even tried to get moving, so it's
not something that would be announced all the time.  It HAS been mentioned
before, and will be again surely, just not every week.)
 
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Nov 16, 1998 22:16 from Army Ant
Wow.. this _is_ the best evening in my fairly short memory..  (perhaps I'm a
little biased too, being that so many of my friends were there, both in the
audience and onstage.. still, tho'.. cheers to everyone).
 
I want to mention Mike's roach buddy song too.. I thought it ruled. (true
story, too.  The staircase just southeast of hillcrest has a roach rather
permanently attached to it).
The only piece that I didn't really like was Will's 'mother' monologue.  But
then I never really get those long / boring / weird poetry things.
 
oh, and how does one make submissions for Best Of?
 
Ender> your summary is most helpful.. I'd love to see you continue posting it.
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Nov 17, 1998 01:17 from FerrisBueller
Regarding the whole "novelle"/"novel" thingy:  Ender had it right when he said
"I believe Bob was acknowledging that it had been discussed before and that he
agrees.  Or at least that's what he said."  I don't remember who had mentioned
it (because I was skimming the entire sememster's worth of messages when I ran
across it), but I agreed it was a good idea.
Anyhoo, I hope that clears anything that needs clearing.  You really should
check out the roach if you're ever wandering Hillcrest.  The cigarette Mike
used to kill it is also epoxied to the steps.  It's like a horrible snapshot of
the crime. :)
One more thing before I go...  Is there a No Shame channel on IRC? If you don't
know what I'm talking about then don't worry about it.
Bu-bye
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Nov 17, 1998 08:49 from Ender
 
I think this forum and the website (www.noshame.org) are the only online forums
that specifically cater to No Shame, but I could be wrong..
 
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Nov 17, 1998 08:51 from Ender
 
Army Ant:  Not 100% sure what you mean about submissions for Best Of.  If you
mean "voting," discussion from this forum (particularly in a couple of weeks
when decision-time gets closer) will definitely be taken into account, so
that's audience input right there.  The only pieces that will be considered for
Best Of are those performed on or before November 27th.  December 4th the order
for the Best Of No Shame Fall '98 will be announced at the show, which means
that pieces performed that night are not accepted into the Best Of on December
15th, which is why this is called "Dead Week."  However, since some really cool
things have a habit of happening in this show, Dead Week pieces are considered
for the Best Of the semester after that.  Which means we may see a piece on
December 15th that was originally performed last Spring...  ya just never know.
 
Oh, and as for who decides, the board meets with all of the scripts and (based
on their subjective but diverse opinions and bbs input) choose pieces and
decide the order of performance, traditionally through the course of one very
long evening.  Fun, but long, yes.
 
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Nov 17, 1998 12:30 from Alice From Hell
No ISCA announcement has ever been made at any No Shame I've attended. But I've
missed two this season.
 
What is the point of having this forum if people don't know about it?
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Nov 17, 1998 12:36 from Carolyn
You know, if anyone who is on ISCA wants to get up and make an announcement
about ISCA, that would no doubt be cool with everyone.  I would actually prefer
that to someone on the board making an announcement about it, since I like the
fact that this room is NOT an official part of No Shame and is NOT linked to
the board in any official way.
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Nov 17, 1998 12:41 from Alice From Hell
I thought that the board took announcements.
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Nov 17, 1998 12:45 from Babbling Wombat
I think an "announcement board" should be created, and bad performances should
be rewarded with a spanking.
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Nov 17, 1998 12:51 from Ender
 
On some occasions non-board people have given an announcement themselves, like
last season when someone showed up to tell us about a drag event.  Sure, you
tell the board you're going to do it, and at some point the person on stage
says something like "...and so-and-so wanted to add something" or whatever.
Totally depends on how the current board wants to handle it.
 
ANYONE who wants to print up a little "how to get to ISCA" blurb to hand out to
the audience members waiting in line would be free to do so.  It definitely
doesn't have to be a board action.  I've considered doing it myself (I'm not on
the board, for anyone who has lost track), but haven't, as previously
mentioned, had the time.
 
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Nov 17, 1998 15:02 from Alethe
We can announce it.  There is no official board opposition or anything.
We have
just forgotten, it gets busy before hand.  We fully intend to and have
intended to, it has slipped our minds the last few weeks, thats all.
Perhaps a nice, casual reminder beofre we open the house and we will then be
sure to include it. Sorry if this has been a great deal of trauma to
anyone. We do pay attention and often respond to requests made in this
forum,  and will continue to do so at our discretion, but the overlooked
announcement was not intentional, it just happened. That's the way things
go sometimes.
 
 
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Nov 17, 1998 15:09 from Thufir
Personally I think the board should be hung for this oversight.
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Nov 17, 1998 16:43 from Alethe
Yeah!
Yeah!  Hang 'em!
wait a minute....
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Nov 17, 1998 22:29 from John Boy
I would very much like it if this was announced at No Shame with all the other
play things going up...
A GYPSY STOLE MY HANDBAG...UofI MacBride Auditorium, Fri. at 8:05PM, Sat at
2:05 and 8:05PM...all showings are FREE!
written and directed by John Olson (can exclude this last part :)
 
very much apreciated.
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Nov 18, 1998 10:50 from Alethe
we'll do our best cap'n..
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Nov 18, 1998 10:56 from Babbling Wombat
Why don't you just tattoo the announcements onto the board members prior to the
show, that way we can all read them while they give the line up.
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Nov 18, 1998 11:29 from Quicheo
Oooo!  A free tattoo!!  Sign me up....
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Nov 18, 1998 11:30 from Babbling Wombat
Damn, if I would have known you were that gung ho about a tatoo, I would have
offered that instead of Jason and his girlfriend for admission..
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Nov 18, 1998 11:36 from Lear
quicheo>  unless you're really artistic, or masochistic, tattooes hurt like a
bitch.  Just a pre-emptive warning. :)
 
but talk Aprille into giving a nude skit, and I'll buy you a tattoo.  Maybe a
real one, even. :)
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Nov 18, 1998 11:39 from Thufir
Oh stop that.
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Nov 18, 1998 13:44 from Avenue Player
yes.  please stop that.
oh, for the love of god, i just agreed with thufir...
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Nov 18, 1998 13:53 from Thufir
Don't worry; it wasn't on purpose.
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Nov 18, 1998 14:15 from Babbling Wombat
Yeah, Lear made you do it.
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Nov 18, 1998 14:16 from Ender
 
...and then there was No Shame...
 
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Nov 18, 1998 14:17 from Babbling Wombat
Whats that?  And why is that interupting our conversation?
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Nov 18, 1998 15:16 from Alice From Hell
No Shame is that place where you go when you're drunk to hit on women.
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Nov 18, 1998 16:24 from Quicheo
I'm not sure we can answer that, given the misogynist undertones of this weeks
show...
 
But I, for one, have never been drunk NOR looking to pick up women...  ;)
 
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Nov 18, 1998 16:27 from Thufir
I'll believe that last part...
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Nov 18, 1998 16:47 from Alethe
about last week's show...
I thought accent therapy was a good idea playing on a the standards of accents
are fascinating and generally funny.  It was wellw ritten, I justthought that
this piece ran too long.  Only s little, it wasn't agony or anything, i am just
sayin that some cuts would have picked up the pace and helped it be even more
funny.
I liked the language of brutality. Once again dan tires to push the line of
offending the audience.  Admittedly, i cringed at a few parts, but overall a
well structured, well thought out piece. Solid delvery to boot.
I liked the raw truth about why i won't go out with you...  funny little , plus
getting tough with james is always good for a hoot.
The interview with orgasm piece, was all right.  It generally circled around
the same joke, bu it was probably meant to , so ..yeah.  I didn't appreciate
the myth of the female orgasm line.  It wasn't any sort of biting critique of
society, or putting up an idea to show its holes.  Nothin like repressing hte
repressed.  It was a fine piece an dI feel like mike is developing a better
sense of timing the more he writes fo rno shame, which is great.
I enjoyed greg's piece.  I wondered why the lights were supposed to stay up so
long at eh end.  i was in booth, did something else happen that i missed?
over all , a solid night, a full docket, can't complain about that.
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Nov 18, 1998 16:57 from Prufrock
Getting tough with me's not good for a hoot. What an awful thing to say.
 
Dan's piece was my favorite of the evening and Greg ran a close second. Greg
displayed what is, again, the Magic of Timing. Greg is very nearly a master of
the Magic of Timing. Greg also has down the (wait for applause). These are good
things.
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Nov 18, 1998 19:57 from Ender
 
I wondered about the light thing too (lights up for a while at the end of
Greg's piece).  Didn't know it was in the script.  Now I wonder more.
 
I have this theory that blackouts make everything funnier.  If something
happens on stage, and you are just beginning to realize how funny it was
when the stage goes completely dark, the funny is magnified.
 
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Nov 18, 1998 20:00 from Carolyn
Quick blackout pieces are a whole category of NS piece in my mind.  And Adam, I
think that last line of your post itself is pretty funny.  Even without a black
out.  "The funny is magnified."  That's very Gogerty.
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Nov 19, 1998 16:52 from Prufrock
I'm hesitant to work too much that depends on light cues into my pieces
nowadays. Light cues require rehearsal. I'm learning that.
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Nov 19, 1998 17:00 from Fanky Maloon
The blackout in my piece -
Actually I did script it so that they would wait "five full seconds after I hit
the stairs", then blackout.  I pondered making it seven, but decided that was
just too long.  I think it worked rather well. ;)
I just figured I would give people time to wonder if I was coming back, etc,
then boom.  Lights out. Hee.
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